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Monday, January 18, 2010

Keep the subsidies

Rm50 billion more to .....hmmmmm.....boleh juga. Jom!

It is reported in the Malaysian Insider today that if the government opted for total removal of subsidies for fuel, gas, flour and sugar it could save the government up to RM50 billion a year. And this huge sum of money saved could be used to provide targeted help for the lower income group and for various government infrastructure projects that would directly stimulate the economy.

Under normal circumstances as a citizen I'd tend to agree. Remove the subsidies and use the RM50 billion a year to eradicate poverty, build infrastructure, schools, hospitals etc. etc. etc.

But don't know why leh? When I read about the subsidies removal debate all I could think of was, "Wah! Baarger! Another RM5o billion for them to siphon off into their Swiss bank accounts ah? No wonder they are thinking about it la!"

Am I crazy to think like that ah? What you think?


NIAMAH!!!

73 comments:

Cynthia said...

Yes you are so chi-seen! Your imagination is running riot lah! You must have faith that this saving will be the income stream for the nth economic plan. And cos PM has launched this 1Malaysia thing, the economic plan will benefit ALL Malaysians, without any discrimination. Believe lah!

Anonymous said...

Confirmed lah. No need to second guess.

Anonymous said...

can't blame you Pat. our thinking is all so brainwashed by the comments on the blogs that any form of sincerity is treated with suspicion and scorn. Poor BN, they are on a slippery slope to regain our trust. Do right also die, do wrong die faster. Since die anyway better do wrong lah!

Anonymous said...

aiya uncle pat ah, we all think same same lor...they still think we suckers wor. maybe its a sign that they know next election we all gonna give them a huge erection cum on their face..hihihi

better2mrw said...

too many holes, suddenly discover too few covers. This $50b must cover many many A*** Holes. Why not easy mah...people are stupid...people short memory...Ask them to pay more..problem solved.

donplaypuks® said...

Patrick

You are unerringly spot on!

I wouldn't trust this regime with an extra 50 cents let alone $50 billion!!

Look at the situation in Sarawak alone - they are planning 12 dams - of which 2 are near completion) when currently Tenaga has more than 50% excess capacity and 45% of Tenaga's cost is from guaranteed take or pay contracts (with cost increase for gas etc., passed through to Tenaga) awarded by a compliant UMNO/BN Govt to the IPP's!!

More than that, the Govt of CM Taib has re-classified miliions of tons of coal reserves in Sarawak as 'renewable energy' in defiance of the rest of the World, so they can continue to pillage and plunder! Can you believe that - coal, renewable energy??!!

At this rate, by 2013 we will have nothing of our $350 million reserves left. I think that is their game plan before Pakatan comes into power - to bankrupt us!

dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

Anonymous said...

i don't blame you, pat! cause i think the same. How not to when we know our country is run by selfish incompetent bastards!!

wong said...

last dig n take as much as u can n park outside ..that is the schemes of things...last robbery ? are we going to wait n be bankrupt ?

Anonymous said...

Ya...take away subsidies and we pay higher. And then government give back these subsidies saved to big companies like SD and Measat and their favoured sons. How? Easy la....these are teh guys who regularly sign big big contracts for which they got to pay big big stamp duties. And then they ask for waiver and idiotic Finance Minister rants it. Maybe got to find out how much was the cost to the government of lost stamp duties becasue of waivers!!

kl said...

You just gotta ask yourself what happened to those billions they 'saved' those few times they raised the petrol prices. Any discernible improvements in the public transport system?

'save' .... these bargers really make me laugh la.

Anonymous said...

1) these umno fcukers know malaysia is down to its last few ringgit.

2) this will be their last hurrah before the empty the national coffers and leave malaysia bangkrupt.

3) thanks to all umno supporters. i hope they rot in hell - both the umno fcukers and their blind supporters.

4RAKYAT

Anonymous said...

Uncle Pat. I have the same nagging feeling too.

If the removal of subsidies would help stimulate the economy I am all game.

But we are just oh so sure where the cash would go to.

And thus my answer is a big no-no. Subsidies remain pls.

Nat--

austozi said...

Name me ONE person in the BN government who is actually likely to think about "saving money to provide targeted help for the lower income group and for various government infrastructure projects that would directly stimulate the economy."

I rest my case.

ktteokt said...

Now only the Malaysian government think of SAVING? Come on, these guys have been wasting so much RM in carrying out half-past-six project which only benefit their cronies and now only they say it's time to "tighten the belt"? Utter rubbish!

ygbenor said...

right on the dot lah. Subsidy my foot, it will go to their cronies and their account somewhere. Lost faith in the government long time ago.

wandererAUS said...

These UMNO thieves are talking of using the removed subsides to uplift the quality of life for the poor....wait a minute, I knew there is something not right here!
Hardworking farmers who have toiled the land since Merdeka holding TOLs have not got those TOLs converted into freeholds. These UMNO blokes are just oozing out bullshit! Pity those unfortunate farmers were born with a wrong color of their skin......

Jayenjr said...

If these joker BN/UMNO fellas couldn't do much for the poor & the so-called infrastructures when they had so much money they could roll it like Cuban cigars, what makes anyone think that they will do better with the RM50b? Brunei has had only petrolium as a natural resource, compared to Msia which was blessed with rubber, cocoa, palm oil, petrolium, tin. And yet, Brunei today does not impose personal income tax; no export, sales or manufacturing taxes. The Msia govn taxes you all the way to the toilet (yeah, wait till you get a whiff of GST), and yet these clowns have run out of money. Can't fathom the idiots who continue to vote them in.

Anonymous said...

why are they removing the damn subsidies for those important daily goods and products?

For megaprojects lagi la apa lagi? Apakah kita rakyat Malaysia benar-benar dapat mendapatkan faedah-faedah daripada projek-project mega ini?

Tak pernah saya rasai selama ini bahawa saya dan orang yang berada di sisi saya mendapat apa-apa faedah....

it just goes without saying, that the government has always been a joke... and you are not even allowed to criticize the government's actions? Why you ask? because the flers more clever than you la!! that's what they think...

according to mr joker yassin, not being loyal to the government = not being loyal to the country?

Should not it be the other way round? 1malaysia anyone?

XXX niamah la

baby anon

Anonymous said...

well.. I thought the same too!
-ken

bZbee said...

i agree with you la uncle pat...how can i think of good things when i see money and umno together??..hahaha.....
BTW...maybe the chinese/ non muslim bumiputra/putri have to pay higher tax ....

ClArΪssέ said...

NIAMAH!

Glad that I don't pay taxes in Malaysia. Sadly, my dad does. Will 50billion be spent equally among 1Malaysian or 1Race, we'll sit back and watch the show.

Anonymous said...

Removing subsidies will greatly affect the poor. Poor becoming poorer...

And they claimed they will use the money saved to help the poor???

Take RM10 from their right hand, and give back RM3.00 to their left???

Trashed said...

You only have to look at the Auditor General's Annual Report to figure out whether the incumbent govt is capable of being transparent and accountable to the rakyat for the money spent.

Anonymous said...

Spot On Patrick! Since Najib & His Kakis came on board, they face only problems (legal,political,economic,racial etc.)Also,Government not much cash to spend as Bodohwi have already committed & spent in advance lah.So,desperate & have to think of all possible avenues. Tax on credit cards,remove subsidies! Just wonder what is next?

Anonymous said...

eh y u like dat ah. Govmen want to help us yet you say they want money for swiss bank. They want to help us by doing it their way cannot meh?

Zeroed said...

Uncle Patrick,

U're crazy, I'm crazy to think the same. But lets be realistic lah. RM50b is too much for them to cart away lah. They'd likely spend 40b on some idiotic good-for-nothing failed projects and cart away 10bil.

Cynthia, and what the hell is the freaking '1Malaysia thing'?! Can you please elaborate what exactly that means?! Until now, I have not actually seen anything done yet. Advertising a slogan over and over again without any visible trace of practicing it is no diferent than doing nothing!!!!!

Maybe u can enlighten us chi-seen people:
1. What is 1Malaysia?
2. What are they going to doing?
3. How can it benefit all without any discrimination?

Please make us believe what you believe because this country is in dire need to have a future to look forward to.

Anonymous said...

Chinese says : After you have seen a ghost you are scared of the dark. We have seen too many ghosts already, so naturally we are sceptical of everything the gomen say - after all they say 1 thing and do another - all the blardy time!

Nordin said...

Let's take the BN calculation at face value RM50 billion.Let us ponder a bit. Of that amount how much is being used to subsidizes for the poor and how is being used to be given to the cronies companies?

I bet the ratio will be 1:10

Capone said...

you're not crazy...you're certainly right...hahahha...stupid gomen

pinsysu said...

alibaba & the dunno how many thieves in the 1Msia-infested-dent are rubbing their hands in glee in great anticipation of bountiful harvests ... and oso BN_UMNO nids to stuff their war chest for the coming GE with backup plan of a happy retirement somewhere out there ...

michael said...

Instead of implementing plans to move up the ladder of an initial tiger economy, our political leaders had chosen the path to plunder and cheat us of our God given heritage, oil. In the process, they corrupt every relevant government agency in order to keep themselves in power.

Can't blame the citizens for thinking this way.
BN is reaping what they sow.

Anonymous said...

Pat, i think you are blardy right ah...niamahfulat

clearwater said...

Your thinking is definitely on the right track but your numbers need some twiddling. If RM50 billion a year from subsidy removal is made available for the lower income group and for government projects, not all RM50 billion will be siphoned off. They need to be seen to be doing something otherwise the leakage becomes too obvious. Say, 20% leakage; still comes up to a cool RM10 billion. Plenty to share around.

Kenny Boo said...

Patrick, my immediate response was " Tiu Nia Mah High, another RM50B gone!!??"

Anonymous said...

need not think or say more, Pat, you think what i think. malai-sia mah, apa Lan Cxxx pun boleh!!!!

Heng said...

we think the same way!...bugger wanna cheat our money again!

Heng said...

Cynthia ur chih sin la....and stupid to believe the govenment will take care out poverty....u stupid!!...cant u see they making alot of effort to cut this and that?...what they up to?...people 1st ah?...B***s**t....sorry i mean NIAMAH!!

Anonymous said...

Secrecy laws are not strong anymore in Europe. Most Malaysian tyrants move their money to Singapore and Australia. And Hong Kong.

Just ask Mahathir if you dont believe me.




sbennit@yahoo.com

Careful said...

BN, especially umNO knows that their days are numbered (counting down to the next GE). This is the last time they could plunder the wealth of the nation for personal gain.

It is important for the rural and poor people to understand the 'udang disebalik batu' of BN/umNO that disguised as Juara Rakyat. Be cautious and not be blinded by the sweet talk and some 'goodie bags'. Every 1 sen you gain from them is actually thousands that they have plundered.

I rather opt for Middle Malaysia.

Ahmad Ilham said...

While tehy are siphoning away the wealth, they try to fool the kampung folks with the 'Juara-Kampung-kacang-putih-goodie'.

Don't blame the government if you are easily happy and contented with the so-called freebies.

Karen said...

For sure. I bet they lay awake at night staring at the ceiling thinking "50 billion for the people. 50 billion for myself. 50 billion for the people. Screw it! 50 billion for myself, ofcourse! *shut eyelids, turn over, thump the pillow and drifts to sleep with a smile.

Anonymous said...

Patrick,

After pillaging and robbing the national coffers until there is nothing left, these bunch of greedy 1UMNO led by the greediest of them all 1Najib are still not satisfied with their "haram" haul (oops, not sure if I am allowed to use "haram" because it's a malay word which incidentally could be interpreted as an islamic word).

Anyway, we are suckers for more punishment and "liwat" (oops, there I go again with a possibly malay/islamic word which I am forbidden to use). Soon they will even take my underpants and my children's nappies until there is nothing left for them to take except to sell us as slaves.

Tiu Niamah to the 1BN/1UMNO government.

Crazy said...

Yeah, you're absolutely crazy to think such thoughts and so are majority of the readers here and that includes me. =)

Capone said...

Inglorious bastard

Zainal Kling said...

Apa salah kalau kita kasi sikit duit untuk ahli politik bn sedangkan mereka menjalankan tugas '1malaysia/juara rakyat' dengan dedikasi?

Anonymous said...

Pat

Your hometown is in the news again.

This time the Watergate, Ipoh-style.

Keep us informed of the insiders' news from your Ipoh friends.

Anonymous said...

I bet on my balls and agree with you Pat!

Rakyat Yang Susah said...

Actually,we rakyat hv conned by the current govt.You see they subsidised the essential goods but on the other hand they privatised all the essential services like TNB,TM,Indah Water,Highways and allow so many toll collections.So all these they take back from the people and worst there may be these scandals of proliferationg money(through these private companies) of the country money through their cronies.Another example,that is our national car project.This project suppose to bring benefits to rakyat by way of cheap cars for rakyat.But it is not.Compare this to other car making countries like Japan,USA,Germany,their domestic car price is so cheap that the people can just change new cars every 2 to 3 years.Even a non-producing country like Australia,the imported model(like Toyota,Honda)is cheap compared to our national car(same cc and based on local currency).

Anonymous said...

wah Pat! I also think same same one! Maybe because we were educated by the same type people le. Only difference is these people are action people - don't care right or wrong; 'just do it'. We on the other hand only talk-talk type of people - think if it is right or wrong. Very sad :(

Anonymous said...

What subsidy? I for one (ya i know, my opinion counts for nought in this bolehland), reject the term, subsidy for petrol!! Petrol comes from the tanah. The tanah belongs to the rakyat!! So what is wrong if the rakyat benefits from it? It is not as if the fuel is given out free!! So what's the big deal if fuel is sold lower than the international market rate; it is not as if :
- cars here are sold at competitive international rates.
- the rakyat here is paid at an international competitive salary scale.
- the rakyat has an efficient public transport as an alternative.

I cry for Malaysia!!!!

Anonymous said...

Niamah! They want to scrape more money out of my food by removing the subsidy. I am already struggling to put food on the table. Removing the subsidy means more money for their cronies and less food for my children. I do not agree.

Bloody hell! Just wait till the next election.

Anonymous said...

The bumiputeras has been living with 'sabsidi' like having rice as a staple food.

It is an 'addiction' to them.

Now bn want to take away such thing, sure they will mengamuk!

Anonymous said...

Det Maverick is grumbling that 'someone' is secretly selling sand to Singapore, despite the ban.

Malaysian sand becomes 'Sand' Resort, where people will go to gamble.

Ha ha Ha ...

Wonder why Det maverick dare not reveal the identity of that person.

Maybe he has lost his memory.
But it should not be too difficult for him to narrow down to those umNO flers.

~eRiC~ said...

patrick!! u're one of a kind of michaelian lar!!! u rock babe!!!
LOL
yea, there were too many cases happened that we just cant help it to doubt their promises made everytime

Anonymous said...

what can we all do to stop these nonsense apart from pouring out our grievances here? must we wait for another 2 yrs or so?

Anonymous said...

Ee..sound familiar mah, the billions that were saved after fuel price increase in 2007 which were supposed to be spent to improve public transportation, also just vanished like David Copperfield magic.

Anonymous said...

Everyone must be ready as snap election can be called any time this year.

k4kenny said...

You are bloody right, Pat. I share the same suspicious of them since the "internet" years.

I'm paying tax and after so many years I don't see how I stand to benefit from the subsidies when the money siphoned off in lump sum is much much more than the rakyat can benefit. Otherwise, the rakyat would have benefited more!!! Fcuk.

2 IC said...

PAS Perak kini mengesan satu usaha tersusun pihak-pihak tertentu untuk memastikan Umno dan Barisan Nasional (BN) menang pilihan raya di Perak melalui pendaftaran pemilih berganda. Antaranya adalah dengan mengarahkan semua anggota polis agar membuat kad pengenalan awam (IC) di samping mempunyai kad keanggotaan polis sebagaimana biasa.

Tosai said...

APCO Worldwide, the company hired by the prime minister to redeem his flagging image, has allegedly offered similar services to dictators and corrupt leaders around the globe, according to the Times of India.

Now we know what to expect.

Anonymous said...

haiya patrick... why u so -ve one... but don't you worry... there are many of us in the same boat... We know what's on their mind, for the lot, gov $$$ is their $$$ ma...

uncle SAM said...

The administration of President Barrack Obama is demanding a detailed explanation from Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak’s government on the two missing F-5E jet engines and the series of arson attacks on churches and other places of worship over the last two weeks in regards to the use of the term ‘Allah’.

It also quoted Wisma Putra sources as saying if Najib viewed these issues lightly then Washington could slap economic sanction on the government.

America is Malaysia’s number one trading partner and in recent years is ranked among the top three foreign investors. In 2008, it was the second largest investor with investments totalling RM8.7 billion.

Any economic sanctions will have a painful effect on the country which is already suffering from a large deficit.

Anonymous said...

When television was first introduced, the Saudi Scholars refused to allow television to come into the country -- just like Rais Yatim says that the Internet is a western invention that will erode our Malaysian culture.

ktteokt said...

The English proverb, "PENNY WISE, POUND FOOLISH" applies here. Saving up on minor minor things like subsidies which may save the nation millions, but these guys spend money like pouring water in the billions!

Jo said...

That's what I said to my husband when I read about it. You mean, they want to waste all that money for others? Why not keep it themselves?

Anonymous said...

Time is running out for them for sure. Grab whatever they can....

Anonymous said...

Now is the time to squeeze as much as one can in the name of love and who care even if we are no more in power then.

Hehehehe , by the time opposition takes over , abuk pun tak ada.

Isi Kita angkat, tinggal tulang dan hutang untuk depa.

Dirty Harry.

Trevor said...

Patrick... beware of ISA for having such a threatening thought!

It will threaten national security as govt will be running out of fund bcos of over-subsidization.



But I thought the ISA should use against those who purchased a laptop @ RM50k, or a pendrive @ RM300-RM400

Anonymous said...

You all know the faith of BN for next election. Just by counting your fingers. So before they have to balik kampung, they will think ways to make more and more. I beleive many of the BN will migrate to overseas after next election. Faham-fahamlah. Lari kuat-kuat.

Anonymous said...

MACC called up Teoh Beng Hock over the sale of RM2K of jalur Gemilang, but failed to check on theose who pay RM400 for a 1GB thumb drive.

MACC is therefore practising selective prosecution and biased.
Not trustworthy at all.

If you still have faith in MACC, maybe you can help me to expalin the 'minor abberation' above.

amoker said...

What else la. Naik harga petrol said to use the RM2 billion for transportation improvement. So far, nothing

MetalMic said...

First the petrol price was raised during the petrol hike in 2008 to save Gov coffers - understandable

Then wanna remove subsidy from certain "undeserving" rakyat - Hmmm..

Then wanna introduce GST to gain more income and gain developed nation status - WTF??

Now wanna remove subsidy on essential items to gain MORE income - again WTF ???

My hope is these moves is to fill in the gap generated by lack of FDI and not because our country is going bankrupt...

Then again I can't help to have the same suspicion like Pat and the rest here...

May GOD save Malaysia!

Anonymous said...

After 50 years of budget allocated for the poor. where did the money go to?. Why still got poor people. RM50 billion??? whose pocket.

1 Patan

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