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Monday, November 14, 2011

Sarawak, a different country...I mean state. Or do I?

It's a very different looking bird, ain't it?

Everytime I visit Sarawak I feel like I am in a different country. Things there are just somehow.....different. In so many positive ways. People were friendlier. Places were cleaner. People were more...together. And at times I felt more Malaysian there than I have ever done over here on the peninsula. And that I think is by the gracious sufferance of the Sarawakians and not because I hold a Malaysian passport. I could never really put my finger on why and how exactly things were different over there.  They just ...... were!

I may have found the reason today. In the front page of The Sun.  I tried looking for the same story in The Star but couldn't find it. Maybe they didn't think it worth printing. NST? No my maid still prefers The Star for fish wrap so I don't buy the NST.  What about the Sun's front page story?  I shall copy it here in its entirety as I found it in the online edition.  I am not going to comment on it. You read it and see if you can't find your own reasons for thinking why things are so different over there. For now. I am beginning to understand why I need a passport to go there.

Comment later if you like and share your thoughts with us. By the way, the highlights are mine.


Sarawak won't adopt anti-apostasy law

KUCHING (Nov 13, 2011): The state government does not intend to adopt anti-apostasy law because Sarawak practises religious freedom where each and every individual can choose the religion of his or her choice.
However, Assistant Minister of Islamic Affairs Datuk Daud Abdul Rahman said, this does not mean that the State Islamic Department was encouraging all those who had converted to Islam to leave the religion.
“We do not encourage converts to leave the religion neither do we have an iron grip on them. We can only advice them,” said Daud yesterday, reiterating that the state upholds the rights of individuals where religion is concerned.
Daud was commenting on a recent statement by Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom that it was up to the individual states to propose an anti-apostasy law.
Speaking to reporters after attending a graduation and award presentation ceremony at Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan (SMK) Matang, Daud said Muslims in the state are not the majority and it would create bad feelings among the non-Muslims if the Anti-Apostasy Act was to be implemented.
Daud said the state, unlike West Malaysia, looks at religion from a different point of view and if converts really want to leave the religion after being advised against it, there is nothing much that the State Religious Department can do.
“However, we have set up a committee called ‘Akidah Committee’ headed by the State Mufti to help the new converts and to counsel them on religious matters,” he said.
Daud explained that a convert who wanted to leave the religion would normally inform the State Religious Department about it and he (the convert) would be given counselling sessions by officers from the department for up to a year before he (the convert) makes a final decision.
The Assistant Minister said that he had personally received requests from several individuals regarding the matter, and his solution was always to let the individuals decide what was best for them.
Most converts, he said, converted to Islam for the sake of marrying a Muslim man or woman and they had almost zero knowledge about Islam.
“Even their Muslim partner may have very little knowledge of Islam and they tend to lead a non-Islamic way of life after conversion, leading them to think that there is no difference if they go back to their old beliefs.
“Another problem is that those who want to leave the religion have to deal with the National Registration Department in deleting the ‘bin’ or ‘binti’ from their name as displayed in the identification card,” he said.

NIAMAH!!!

28 comments:

frothquaffer said...

People should not be forced to convert if they wish to marry someone of a different religion. The Holy Koran states that there shall be no compunction to adopt the Islamic faith. The law as it currently stands in Malaysia is legalized compunction and is counter to the teachings of Islam and therefore unIslamic.

Anonymous said...

For Sarawak ok, for other states not ok? hahahhahaha... now you know why im migrating and telling you all those personal stuff?

I, or maybe WE, dont ask for much, even after being sidelined by the so-called NEP which is for the wealthy malay, a poor malay like myself only want to leave islam.

Forget about Christianity, it is never about MONEY. No Christian agenda here, in fact the religion of my choice is not even Christian. Thats why I laughed so hard everytime they made propaganda blaming christian on TV3.

Anonymous said...

The reason why there is difference is because UMNO use religion as a political tool to hold on to power and misleading the rural folks.Those employed in the religious department will just kowtow to their political master(UMNO)to give decrees to suit UMNO.
Religion and politics should never mix! It is worst if religion is being used to justify the political aim(of just want to hold on to power).

Anonymous said...

I am originally fron Kuching but have lived overseas for 40 years. I make the trip back to Kuching every 2-3 years and normally stopover in KL for a few days. All this time it is apparent that racial harmony is more obvious in Sarawak then in KL. In kuching old schoolmates and friends of mine can go to a coffee shop and have drinks or food together regardless of our race or religion.

In KL the segregation of people through religion is so obvious that organizing a meal with friends is difficult as they are scared they eating at a non designated place as per their religion can get them into trouble. The talk of them and us is always breought up.

In Sarawak inter-marriages has produced a unique people who respect each other as fellow citizens not enemies.

casper c said...

I hardly read any of the msm but this is an eye opener. And yes, people in general are friendlier over in Sarawak, and yes they do subscribe to corrupt practices ala UMNO but Taib and brother-in-law George would never follow UMNO's line where bigotry reins with all things related to upholding the notion of a superior race ie. UMNO Muslims, the epitome of a select breed that don't rank in any conformation, anywhere on Gawd's green earth.

Anonymous said...

In W. Mal...correct me if i'm wrong..If a non muslim decides to convert to islam, but the non muslim partner refuses, by Islamic law they are cohabitating in sin :-) and must be saperated.
In E.Malaysia, we have a 3000=% increase in the "Malay" populance over a 2-3 decade span. How in biological heaven did that happen?? Did they practice the OWC rituals way before the West??
And lastly in W.Mal...an Indian fella can become a Malay and become PeeM. Again, we have some true silap mata jampi workings over here.

Fisha said...

When people are force to do or to believe in something they not even interested or willing in, why not just practice it the Marxist style. Right? If you insist you didn't do so, then stop forcing/coercing/no-choice-just-need-to folow-because-I am-Malaysian!

Freedom, spell it out, yes you know, definition? Nah, I doubt that.

Anonymous said...

Please check whether this Daud fella is still holding his post in Sarawak. I betcha they will transfer him to a remote place in Sarawak to look after the local surau. Mess with UMNO-controlled KL and this is what you get.

Don't believe me? Let's count the days and see when he receives his transfer letter.

Good bloke but he should have put his head below the trench and simply do what he believes.

Anonymous said...

The Malayan Malays of the BN/UMNO grouping are hardly can ever think correctly for themselves, it is just because they are doom to be stupid and foolish to the core and are not having the intelligent to think independently because BN/UMNO doesn't let them do it at all. Even though they are very obvious about it initially.

With them in the ruling class, that subjected the BN/UMNO Malays to adopt such an approach just to maintain the useless BN/UMNO Malays supremacies amongst the others, to fool, plunder, rob and what not they will do to the nation and denying the whole people of right and freedom. What an apartheid practizing country in these modern world, we are in now.

Anonymous said...

UMNO cant even get rid of Taib. wat makes u think they can get rid of Daud?

Francis Jair said...

Sarawak need to ensure that there is no encroachment of this unique semenajung katak (Al Ibrahim Perkasa origin) species that do not allow Christians to teach in national schools.

It will do a lot of damage like the cane toad did in Astralia!

Rakyat said...

U want real 1Malaysia? Just remove the pseudo 1Malaysia promoters, otherwise known as UMNO.

Oxfart Poem said...

Hei menipu menipu,
Ahli Parlimen pada biola
Lembu itu melompat ke bulan
Khairy ketawa melihat sukan itu,
Dan Noh lembu-ed seperti berlawak

Anonymous said...

"Though understanding concerns of possible wrongdoings by teachers, he (Deputy Education Minister Wee Ka Siong) explained that there are existing guidelines governing public servants like teachers to ensure that they do not engage in activities that may provoke sensitivities, giving his assurances that the rules will be used to punish those who are guilty of such offences".

This was part of the minister's statement. Why should the minister give credence to spurious allegations by making statements like this?

Malaysian Christians are as much citizens of this country as anyone else and the fact that they are Christians cannot be a disqualification for anything.

The likelihood of a Christian trying to convert a Muslim to Christianity is so remote as to be virtually non-existent.

Mission schools have almost lost their character as mission schools. The result is a loss for the nation. In Hindu India, they continue to be schools of preference. In Buddhist Thailand, a Catholic mission runs a university.

It is extraordinary the extent that some will go to pit one race against the other. Malaysia is a beautiful country and there is much we can achieve as a nation. But we have to come together as a people. Not move separately as different tribes that meet occasionally when it is inevitable or expedient.

We were okay once. But now we have to retrace our national footsteps and re-learn how to come together and enjoy our diversity. We have different beliefs and different cultures. But in the core essentials we are the same. We know right from wrong and we want to same things.

No one has the right to deny another that which he seeks for himself and his family. A good home, food on the table, good health service, good education, employment and a safe environment. And the freedom and the opportunity to develop our individual potential.

Why does Perkasa have a problem with that? Why should anyone have a problem with that? Of course, all this requires the government to be open and transparent.

Anonymous said...

"Though understanding concerns of possible wrongdoings by teachers, he (Deputy Education Minister Wee Ka Siong) explained that there are existing guidelines governing public servants like teachers to ensure that they do not engage in activities that may provoke sensitivities, giving his assurances that the rules will be used to punish those who are guilty of such offences".

This was part of the minister's statement. Why should the minister give credence to spurious allegations by making statements like this?

Malaysian Christians are as much citizens of this country as anyone else and the fact that they are Christians cannot be a disqualification for anything.

The likelihood of a Christian trying to convert a Muslim to Christianity is so remote as to be virtually non-existent.

Mission schools have almost lost their character as mission schools. The result is a loss for the nation. In Hindu India, they continue to be schools of preference. In Buddhist Thailand, a Catholic mission runs a university.

It is extraordinary the extent that some will go to pit one race against the other. Malaysia is a beautiful country and there is much we can achieve as a nation. But we have to come together as a people. Not move separately as different tribes that meet occasionally when it is inevitable or expedient.

We were okay once. But now we have to retrace our national footsteps and re-learn how to come together and enjoy our diversity. We have different beliefs and different cultures. But in the core essentials we are the same. We know right from wrong and we want to same things.

No one has the right to deny another that which he seeks for himself and his family. A good home, food on the table, good health service, good education, employment and a safe environment. And the freedom and the opportunity to develop our individual potential.

Why does Perkasa have a problem with that? Why should anyone have a problem with that? Of course, all this requires the government to be open and transparent.

Anonymous said...

"Though understanding concerns of possible wrongdoings by teachers, he (Deputy Education Minister Wee Ka Siong) explained that there are existing guidelines governing public servants like teachers to ensure that they do not engage in activities that may provoke sensitivities, giving his assurances that the rules will be used to punish those who are guilty of such offences".

This was part of the minister's statement. Why should the minister give credence to spurious allegations by making statements like this?

Malaysian Christians are as much citizens of this country as anyone else and the fact that they are Christians cannot be a disqualification for anything.

The likelihood of a Christian trying to convert a Muslim to Christianity is so remote as to be virtually non-existent.

Mission schools have almost lost their character as mission schools. The result is a loss for the nation. In Hindu India, they continue to be schools of preference. In Buddhist Thailand, a Catholic mission runs a university.

It is extraordinary the extent that some will go to pit one race against the other. Malaysia is a beautiful country and there is much we can achieve as a nation. But we have to come together as a people. Not move separately as different tribes that meet occasionally when it is inevitable or expedient.

We were okay once. But now we have to retrace our national footsteps and re-learn how to come together and enjoy our diversity. We have different beliefs and different cultures. But in the core essentials we are the same. We know right from wrong and we want to same things.

No one has the right to deny another that which he seeks for himself and his family. A good home, food on the table, good health service, good education, employment and a safe environment. And the freedom and the opportunity to develop our individual potential.

Why does Perkasa have a problem with that? Why should anyone have a problem with that? Of course, all this requires the government to be open and transparent.

Anonymous said...

sarawak is the last eden on earth and taib its benign father.

Anonymous said...

Sarawak is losing its charm with those contaminated ideology from Umno!

Anonymous said...

Patrick

For the sake of your customers' health in your restaurant, avoid using chili sauce from KR1M contaminated with high heavy metal.

Maniam said...

Every Indian Malaysian certainly know that the Muhyiddin did not support any Indian sportsperson or student with government scholarships, when he was Mentri Besar in the state of Johor, nor has he as the DPM and the Education minister ever supported an increase of scholarships for Indians or non Bumiputeras.

The high-handed manner in which he forced the Interlok book back into the schools without keeping his promise to amend the offending passages in the book, has angered the Indians. His single-handed dismissal of the learned panel of educationists, who recommended changes in the book, has further proven to the Indians that he cannot be trusted, nor that he is willing to listen to their views. His actions seems to indicate that he may not considered them on the same level as the Malay race and himself.

His arrogance in not dealing with the Interlok book because it puts the Chinese and Indians in bad light in the school syllabus, is a clear indication of his ultra-Malay mind set.

flyer168 said...

Is "Pek Moh" and his family representative of a Holier than thou "True Muslim" with their lifestyle?

So "Bapak Borek...Anak mesti rentek" ofcourse !

Is Holier than thou Federal UMNO/BN welcomed in Sarawak...?

He who holds the pen rules in the land of the Hornbill...

And life goes on...as long as "Pek Moh" makes $$$.

Shalom.

Anonymous said...

Lai, let me tell u why. It's simple really. semenanjung malaysia have 2 major race, malays and chinese. I would not consider indians as a major race since they always seemed to live in their own circle of group(as if in their own world).

A native from Sibu and a final year student in an IPTA in west malaysia, the first year was the most confusing. chinese, malays, indians all seemed to form their own group. I finally joined the chinese since i cannot converse with the malays without talking about religion in the end. Indians? Well, as i said they seemed to formed their own community, no way getting into it.

So on topic, the reason is West Malaysia have 2 major race, while East Malaysia have numerous races, hence promoting racial harmony. Every race have roughly the same number so its not one sided. In a way I dont blame west malaysia to be not "harmonious" since there are only 2 of them. When u have 2 top dogs placed, they are sure to fight for the bigger piece, unfortunately.

So yeah, thats it. From what i observed, the situation cant be helped really. I just want go back home la.... zzzzz..

The environment here have heighten my racist level to a high-point in life. Racist never ever occurred in my mind before, now here it's more or less like a norm. ok, thats all. thanks for reading my rant.

bah, kpd semua miak sarawak nok baca blog tok, balit la sarawak mun da peluang k.

Anonymous said...

What is happening now is that the West Malaysians who come to East Malaysia will say verbally things like over there in Malaysia. If over there in Malaysia as in over in the West Malaysia is Malaysia, then over here is what ? Over here as in Sarawak and Sabah is what ? When words like these are heard, the impression is Sarawak and Sabah is not Malaysia. We have been sleeping on separate beds for the past 54 years. Don't you think it is high time to get a divorce ? East Malaysia is different. One CM always marry foreigners. The other one seems to be saying you better please us or else. That is why Sarawak and Sabah are different.

Shiok Guy said...

I am from Sarawak.
A Christian might marry a Buddhist or vice verse, and they are still free to practice what they individually like.

So please dont come to Sarawak and enforce your rules. We are a separate state/country who join Malaya to form Malaysia

Shiok Guy

Arriana said...

Everytime I go to Peninsular Malaysia I feel I'm coming to a different country...For all my life, I've always thought Sarawak is a country, not a state :)

Anonymous said...

16 September 1963 is a huge mistake isn't it?

Anonymous said...

To Anon 9:23pm,

I commend your decision in choosing your own religion, even if it means hiding your change of faith from your past religious community. I wish you all the best and hope that ex-Muslims can speak out openly in the future.

Jimmy Jong said...

force converson is against basic human right

Nuffnang